Frequently Asked Questions
2013 - april 20th
2014 - april 19th
2015 - april 18th
2016 - april 16th - for you folks who plan long term
3rd Saturday in April - start time 12 noon
Robie is a logistical nightmare. Park in the morning at either lot and
hitch a ride to the start with anyone going that way, lots of people
will be dropping of a car. we don't run a bus from the lots to the start.
Or park at the start and make a friend in the bus line and hitch
a ride back to the start.
here are links to the two parking areas
Springs Shores - http://mapq.st/eLIiZh
Idaho Parks and Rec - http://mapq.st/hXJITg
At the back of Fort Boise Park in northeast Boise. (search it
on Map Quest). At the corner of Mountain Cove Road and
Reserve Street on Scout Lane, you can’t miss it. Come early, we will have some fun.
12 noon. It will always be at 12 noon, do not ask for us to
start earlier this year because you are getting married that
afternoon. You could change your wedding day, or get
married at the finish. Come early, the band starts playing
At Robie Creek picnic grounds, back waters of Lucky Peak
reservoir. No, you cannot spend the night or park at the
finish area or at the start area at Fort Boise in Boise. Get a
room, look for the link to the Red Lion Downtowner on our web site,
or give them a call at 208-344-7691 and ask for the Race to Robie Creek Rate
$79.00 / night - they will even pick you up at the airport
13.1 miles, the toughest half-marathon in the northwest and we are not kidding. this is not a walk in the park, but you can walk the steep, you will not be alone.
The summit is at 4,797 feet and the start is about 2,725 feet. The summit
is about 8.5 miles from the start, the finish is about 3,065
feet. You do the math, it is steep, going both ways, up and
No distinction on runners or walkers --- we just have participants. You can go as fast or as slow as you would like. But we are going to stop timing at about 4 to 5 hours. So if you cannot walk it in less than 4 hours, think really hard about entering. Do not let yourself get talked into doing this if you are not ready. We want you to have a good time (fun that is).
Yes, different every year. If you do not like it, do not enter. In our opinion we are just having fun.
Registration for 2013 opens on-line at www.robiecreek.com on President's Day, February 18th, 2013 at 12 Noon (MST) sharp!
$45 for 2013, plus a small online fee. the same as 2011 and 2012 , good budget work sail toads. we even talked about dropping it a bit. no $70.00 entry for us.
Yes, the 2nd chance drawing is back for 2013, you may sign up for the drawing on Tuesday, Feb 19th at 8:00 am MST. the drawing sign up will close Friday, Feb 22 at 5:00 pm MST. the link to the 2nd chance drawing will be at www.robiecreek.com, bring your credit card !!! cost - $6.00 and please only enter once. no stuffing the box, 1 entry per person please, we will be watching! we are going to pick at least 200 spots, we will notify the winners and losers of the second chance drawing by email by Tuesday, 2/26/2013 ( that is our goal ). winners will have until March 3rd, 2013 at 5 pm (MST) to register for the race. if you win a spot, don't forget you still need to sign up for the race, the race fee is $45.00 plus an online fee.
if you ended up with 1 or more extra spots in the race to
robie creek. the extra ones will be deleted, and you will face a $10 processing penalty. it does not matter how you got more than one, if you entered yourself and your boy friend entered you and your mom also entered you, we are going to delete the extras. you will not have
them to sell or transfer to someone else. please make sure
you only enter once. don't come whining when the extra
spots you thought you had are gone.
in 2009 one person somehow entered 15 times, please only
Yes the field will be limited, 36th year, how does 2436 sound
we up'd it one from last year, will you be the one ? if you have run before you know why we need a limit. for the 1st timers after you get to the finish you will understand.
2011, it was full in 21 minutes, for 2012 - 9 minutes and 45 seconds, 2013 ? can we go under 9 minutes ?
I hope not
The 2nd chance drawing opens 8 am Mt Time on Feb 19nd closes Feb 22th at 5 pm Mt Time.
don't give up hope. We will pick at least 200 more spots.
Will be given out at the finish. Take the size you signed up
for, that last walker to finish wants his medium. there will be a t-
shirt trading area right next door to the t-shirt table if you
wish to trade sizes with someone. if you bought a number
from some 260 pound lightweight, and if you need a small,
this is the spot for you.
Not sure of the fabric for 2012 yet, but the design will be a closely guarded secret until april 21st --- and if for some reason you don’t like them, they make great rags or sell them on ebay.
they are a finisher shirt, you must finish to get one. keep training, honor yourself and the race.
basque center, 6th and main, wednesday april 17th 5 to 8
pm. it is the only time till 9:30 am race morning. come down, a
great party, beer, food, music, and a great time.
did you miss it ? come to the start beginning
at 9:30 am race morning for numbers, we will use
bib tags in 2013, so no timing chip pick up, got your
number your have got your timing chip. please do not
cut or wrinkle your race number, chip might not work.
yes, to packet pickup.
you will get one, it will come from the Race to Robie Creek, via Constant Contact
Bring the one with your Race Number on it, your race number will be printed in the big numbers
it will show up via email a few weeks before the race, don't lose it.
save it, bring it to number pick up, it is what you need to
do a transfer. stick it up on your frig, so it will remind you to
go out for a run, instead of eating that left over piece of cake
in the frig.
never got a confirmation ? bring your picture id and we will
take care of you.
if you are running or walking you do NOT need a spectator
pass. if you would like a friend or spouse to see you drag
yourself across the finish line, you need to buy them a pass.
$12.00 Sorry we do not have room for everyone in Boise at the
finish and party, so you may only buy 1 pass. and we are
only selling 700 passes, not everyone gets to buy one, 1st
come 1st served. once you get to the finish you will see
if you have 8 kids and a husband and 3 friends, you have to
decide which one can come into the finish and watch. again
you only may buy 1 pass.
if you ordered a spectator pass it will be with your race
number when you pick it up, either at the basque center on
april 17th from 5 to 8pm or at the start beginning at 9:30 am race
1st you must buy a spot, never pay more than face valve,
2013 entry is $45.00 plus the online fee. post your need
on the robie's facebook page. yes, you need a facebook account, but it is free and really not too
bad. early on it will be overloaded with buyers, but as we get
closer to the race the sellers will be out number the buyers.
hence do not pay too much. 100 bucks on ebay ? it is your
money. but i have seen numbers given away for free on
We do allow for transfers of race numbers. It must be done at
packet pick up night, which will be on Wednesday night April
17th from 5 to 8 p.m. at the Basque Center at 601 Grove in
Boise. NO TRANSFERS ON RACE DAY. ALL TRANSFERS MUST
BE DONE ON THE NIGHT OF APRIL 17TH. Not in town ? a
friend can do it for you or send us an email and the email guy
will do it for you, but please let us help you before 1:30 pm
on the 17th. I don't get emails on my phone, I am old school.
The seller sells their's race number to whomever they
want to sell it to. The buyer comes to packet pick up night
with the seller’s confirmation email form, and we do
the transfer for the new owner and put them into the race.
the seller does not need come to packet pick up night, once
they sell and get their confirmation to the new buyer they are
done. but you are welcome to come down for the party on
We charge $10.00 for a transfer. More paper work you
How do I transfer a spectator pass and socks?
spectator passes will be stapled to your race number
socks will be at their own table upstairs at the basque center.
we know that some sellers will be selling their numbers to one
buyer and spectator passes to someone else, and keeping
their socks, which is fine.
for the number transfer the seller must forward, fax or mail
their email confrimation to the buyer. number transfer must
be done on april 17th 2013, basque center 5 to 8 pm, the one
and only time. NUMBER TRANSFERS WILL NOT BE DONE AT
spectator pass transfer ? pick them up and
make the sell and trade to your buyer, this can be done
anytime up until about 2 pm race day, after that they
become worthless. as for socks, if you bought some and
want to keep them, come down on wednesday night a pick
them up, then trade your number.
If your purchased socks or a spectator pass during
registration and you sell your number, we assume you are transferring
everything to the new person. It is entirely up to the 2
parties to work out details if it's any different.
the rocky canyon sailtoads are not going to get in the middle
of sock and spectator pass trading. but be honest in your
dealing. or just go away.
Yes, we will be using mybib tag for timing for 2013, so there will be no separate chip pick-up Saturday morning. You get your race number at packet pickup and you have your timing tag. please do not fold, cut or wrinkle your race number, it may cause the tag issues and you won't get a time. the same tag we used in 2012
Limited, so car pool, walk, take the bus, get dropped off.
Please do not park in front on someone’s driveway, they
might want to go out for beer before you get back.
None, we will bus you out. You can park at Spring Shores, or
at Idaho Parks and Rec. Lot (Shakespeare on Warm Springs
Road) You can park race morning or the night before, but you
have to figure out how to get to the start or back to town. We
do not run buses to get you to the start race morning. The
last buses out of Robie Creek will go back to the start but it
will be late. My guess is it will leave about 6 to 6:30 p.m. You
might be late for dinner.
Yes we have a big one, beer, food, and it is free for the
participants. Family and friends? We are going to charge
$12.00 for them this year. Buy a spectator pass when you
sign up, it is the only time you can order one. For 2012 you
can only buy 1 spectator pass, but kids 3 and under do not
need one, we figured the kids would not drink much beer,
but they are welcome to a cookie and a potato.
Thanks to Meadow Gold Dairies we will have
some chocolate milk for everyone, prefect for after a
hard run or to go with your cookie.
if you did not run or walk over the hill or buy a spectator
pass, please do not think about crashing the party by any
means. We have only planned on so many people showing up
and there is no extra room for you. come to the start, that
is where all the fun happens.
BIKE RIDERS !! please do not ride in and expect a free
lunch on the rocky canyon sail toads. this year we are
closing the road to you on both ends, unless you have a
spectator pass. sorry, you ate too much.
We have got them, 35 at the start, and another 27 along the
course. When you have to go, you have to go. and for 2013
we will have a couple of urinal stations for the guys, a group
pee. sorry gals, but it will speed up the lines, and remember
gals, get in a line with lots of guys, those lines goes quicker.
and here is another plan - we do not want you to miss the
fun start, while you are waiting in line. just hold it
there will be more at 2 miles and 3.5 miles, you really don't
have to go, you are just nervous and excited.
Yes, 10 of them. Water and fruit, no Gatorade except at the start and finish. Hot day, you might carry your drink of choice.
No you can’t, we have the road closed. You will mess up our
timing and results. we won't leave til you get there. we will
have 50 sack lunches for the last finishers. but the beer
might be gone.
No you can not run on race day as a "bandit". Any other day would be fine. You will drink all the water and beer and eat all the cookies and that would not be fair for the late finishing walkers. Just think, walk 13 miles in 4 hours and all that is left is a cold potato. no number ? or bus pass ? you will not get on the bus to ride out. enjoy your double, you will run back.
Mom, think twice about letting your husband enter your 8
year old. Just because she won the Harrison Classic is no
reason to do the Race to Robie Creek. This 13.1 mile course
is extremely hard. We want your 8 year old to enjoy running
for a lifetime. This will not be fun for them. This race should
still be around when they are ready, but they are not ready at
age 8 or 10. Think about it. If you are 45, you go ahead and
run, but do not make your kids.
Hey Mom and Dad, if you did not listen to our advice and
entered your child, do not get mad at us when we do not
give them an award, we do not give awards for kids under 14.
you have been warned.
Yes, groups are every 5 years starting at 14 (which is maybe still too young), are you over 70 and still running robie ? great job, yes you still get your own age group 70 to 74, 75 to 80 and 81 and over. Tom and Ken, we would not put you in with the youngsters.
We will give awards to the top 3 Men and Women, top 3 Men and Women in each age group, and the top Master (40 and older) in both men and women’s divisions.
No and yes, but please only on the trails, but only if the trails are dry, if it is muddy just come down to the start and watch the fun. please do not ride up or down the course, the road is full, it has 2400 runners, we do not come and run your bike race course during your races. please be considerate. the issue is, you want to see the 1st 100 or so, after that you leave and ride the road, come on think about it. even 1 bike is too many thanks.
spectator passes for 2013, 1 per participant, order when you sign up, they are $12.00 each. IF YOU ARE RUNNING YOU DO NOT NEED ONE !! you want your mom to watch you finish ? you have to buy one for her, unless she is running and she is faster than you. KIDS 3 AND UNDER DO NOT NEED A PASS, THEY CAN'T DRINK BEER BUT THEY CAN EAT COOKIES, and thanks to Meadow Gold we will have chocolate milk for everyone. Spectator passes are for your friends and family to ride the bus in to watch the finish and join us for the party, and picnic. Please no party crashers, we are watching you. Participants (runners and walkers) you will not need a ticket to get out. Please no dogs, cats, bikes, strollers or whiners on the bus. We will start busing folks in from both spring shores ( across the high bridge past Lucky Peak ) and Idaho Parks and Rec lot on warm springs. the buses start at 12:15 pm and will bus people into the finish till about 2 pm. at 2:01 pm no more rides into the finish, please don't even ask. please don't try to get to the finish after 2. the finish area will be full. in total we are using 21 buses.
We are going to bus everyone back to Springs Shores parking lot and then we will run another group of buses that will run a loop down to the Idaho Parks and Rec. parking lot on Warm Springs. This will speed up leaving the finish, it has been tested, and it will get you home for a shower quicker. It is like just getting a bus transfer on the city bus. and again you DO NOT need a spectator pass to ride the bus out if you ran over the hill.
The Rocky Canyon Sail Toads put this race on because we love it, and without it what would 34 crazy people do with their time in the winter, ski or run everyday ? We try to put on the best race possible for all involved. Our goal is not charity first, it is the race, which we try to make the best. But the race has been successfull, so we donate all the money we have left over. for 2012 we donated $66,000.00, not bad when it is really not your #1 goal. Thanks to everyone involved. All the Rocky Canyon Sail Toads are volunteers. No one is paid. One of a few races in the country this size which are all volunteer.
Remember who puts on this race, it is the Rocky Canyon Sail Toads, and sometimes I think the more you whine about stuff the more we work to piss you off. Come on have a little fun with it, we are really a fun loving and all volunteer group. You will never meet a group that works harder and has more fun. We do it because we love it. If there is something you do not like about this race and you wish to whine about it, the theme, the shirts, the food and party at the finish, the bus line, the signup process, the weather, etc. etc. we ask you please to not sign up. For legitimate issues and complaints follow the links to contact us. Thanks